Helen Ghost Girl ([info]crucified72178) wrote,
@ 2002-11-30 11:48:00
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Tori Afterglow
There is something about that woman that is still fucking magical, even though I have to say I prefer the Tori of bygone days. The whole show was phenom even though there was a girl dancing around like she was in the throes of a seizure. Wampum Prayer was just chilling, and there's just something about her presence. I don't know how such a physically tiny woman can emit so much power but wow.

The one thing I must complain about regarding Tori shows is that there are hundreds of people. And I am one of them. But maybe fifty percent of them look like someone I could connect with, or even be Net Friends with, but at the show during intermission and stuff they just look all serious and sometimes if I make eye contact with them they GLARE at me like I invaded their religious experience and that hurts the shit out of my feelings because I almost wish I coulda printed up little pink cardstock cards and had "Hi I'm Helen I would like to meet and know if there are EWF in my area that I can actually hang with and talk Tori and have coffee with and etc. I'm going to post this in my regular LJ and in toriamos.


Okay enough of my whining. It's jst weird how Tori shows can make me feel so charged up and so lonely at the same time. Anyone else ever feel/notice this?


PS I used the word TARD in a previous entry. I wasn't thinking, I'm sorry if it hurt or offended anyone.



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[info]agitated
2002-11-30 08:58 am UTC (link)
i couldn't agree more. i went to 3 shows on the current tour and there was some girl dancing around like she was having a seizure AT EVERY ONE. haha. and there is a lot of glaring.. like people get competitive over who's a bigger tori fan or something.. silly.

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abso fucking lutely!
[info]crucified72178
2002-11-30 09:42 am UTC (link)
Exactly. And it's stupid because I totally don't claim to be Tori's # 1 fan. Yes, I have a bunch of B sides and all her disks and stuff, but I have been a fan since maybe, 7 years. And I don't know a lot of stuff about her. I got into a fight in a chat once with a girl who was mad that I didn't know who Tash was (her baby) and it's like, yeah, here's this woman whose music makes me cry and touches me and I connect with but I don't need to see her house or her kid or anything, and this girl was all like playing a who's the bigger Tori fan game with me and I wasn't having it! I hate that feeling. It's interesting that people with depression (like me) tend to be drawn to her stuff because it's such a solo lonely illness. it doesn't work well in groups. you know, like deadheads, many have the groovy pot thing in common so they would go to shows and be all mellow and friendly with strangers but the tori crowds are so COLD so often that i feel a mix of being elated and being drained after seeing her.

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[info]lysithea
2002-11-30 11:58 am UTC (link)
I am the same way after Tori. I actually have a hard time listening to her after a show. Is that weird? Maybe I build it up so much and she's so damn wonderful and then I have to wait another year. Ugh.

I'm longing to connect to people too. People have such guards up these days though.

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[info]glitterdream
2002-11-30 12:03 pm UTC (link)
I agree about the glaring thing...just before the show I went to, I was waiting for my bf while he was in the restroom and people were passing by and just looking at me but none were friendly looks..it was as if they were all stuck up.
I would also love to meet fellow Tori fans in my area and talk Tori.. but so far I haven't really found any.

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[info]watercolorstain
2002-11-30 06:06 pm UTC (link)
some people glare.
but some people always glare.
there are lots of nice people at tori concerts.
like me!

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[info]kornandpeas
2002-11-30 06:06 pm UTC (link)
Hey. I saw that you added me on your friends list, so I'll add you to my list as well. I also went to the Cleveland show. I agree with you one hundred percent about how dumb it is to debate about who is the "bigger" fan. Who gives a crap if you know her measurements or her birthdate? Who cares who she is married to and where she lives? Whatever. And even if you did know all of that stuff, it doesn't really benefit YOU. Yeah, you'll know a lot about some famous person who probably wouldn't give a care about you--so then you'll just look pretty pathetic. I mean, I'm sure Tori is nice and all....but there are a lot of fans there that REALLY believe that they have some sort of cosmic connection with her. They fucking worship her! If I was her I would be pretty weirded out, haha.

I went to the meet and greet to see what it was like, and there was some girl who was crying. I was thinking, "Oh nooo, here we go." I really don't get it. Her music is great and she seems really cool and all that...but we really need to get a grip with reality.

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[info]jedicat
2002-12-11 10:34 pm UTC (link)
hey. i noticed you added me to your friends list, so i decided to check out your journal.

i definitely see that...i used to like going to her concerts because i would meet really cool people at them, and i'd run into the same people at all the shows, so going to a concert was like a reunion of sorts. even the online communities a few years ago were mostly great, and i've made so many friends through them and by trading boots. but i was turned off by concertgoers during the tour with alanis...people were so pitted between which performer they liked better, as if there could only be one great female performer at a time. and at one of her beacon theatre shows last tour, some girl took my seat during the intermission between rufus and tori's sets and threw a fit when i asked her to move. i finally stopped feeling angry when tori went on, but it ruined the beginning of the show for me. it's pretty much a general annoyance that can happen at any concert, but it challenges my (false) belief that tori shows are sacred and wonderful things.

i've receded from most of the online tori fandom places because of those same competitive mentalities you mentioned, and others. there were some situations on mailing lists, and in bootleg trading, where i felt like "didn't i already graduate from high school?" and i have lots of gripes with her new record label, and their promotions for "scarlet's walk"...they basically gave away prizes to the biggest spammer. but the music...that's what's always brings me back. that's why i pay the absolutely ridiculous prices, with scamming ticketbastard markups, to see her in concert, when i could pay a fraction of that to see a good local band, with great seats (or great standing room)

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